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	<title>Comments on: Turning your laptop into a wired to wireless router for your wirelessly challenged friends</title>
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		<title>By: brk3</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Say you&#039;re at a party and the only internet is a wireless router..&quot;

Im sorry but thats the silliest premise for why you&#039;d want to do this ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Say you&#8217;re at a party and the only internet is a wireless router..&#8221;</p>
<p>Im sorry but thats the silliest premise for why you&#8217;d want to do this ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to do something really stupid here.  I&#039;m in need of help with this same situation, only in Windows.  So if anyone would write me privately at adapt at kc dot rr dot com I would really appreciate it.  Basically I&#039;m blind using talking screen reading software.  I&#039;m going in a week or so to a place where their is only wireless internet, and I need to attach my IP phone to the Ethernet port of my Windows XP based laptop so I can work.  I hate to bug you very intelligent Linux users about a Windows problem, but this blog entry was the only one I could find that was even close to describing what I need.  Tried network bridging but, then it won&#039;t connect to the wireless network any more, maybe because I think you need three adapters, one with internet connnection sharing enabled, and the other two for the bridge.  Am I wrong about that?  There has to be an easy way to do this.  Thanks in advance for any ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to do something really stupid here.  I&#8217;m in need of help with this same situation, only in Windows.  So if anyone would write me privately at adapt at kc dot rr dot com I would really appreciate it.  Basically I&#8217;m blind using talking screen reading software.  I&#8217;m going in a week or so to a place where their is only wireless internet, and I need to attach my IP phone to the Ethernet port of my Windows XP based laptop so I can work.  I hate to bug you very intelligent Linux users about a Windows problem, but this blog entry was the only one I could find that was even close to describing what I need.  Tried network bridging but, then it won&#8217;t connect to the wireless network any more, maybe because I think you need three adapters, one with internet connnection sharing enabled, and the other two for the bridge.  Am I wrong about that?  There has to be an easy way to do this.  Thanks in advance for any ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Notebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried just bridging the wireless and ethernet interfaces â€” no luck. Apparently this has to do with the AP not wanting to talk to devices which havenâ€™t registered their hardware address â€” such as the other ethernet devices. So I suspect hacking something which registers additional hardware addresses using the same interface might work, though I havenâ€™t trie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried just bridging the wireless and ethernet interfaces â€” no luck. Apparently this has to do with the AP not wanting to talk to devices which havenâ€™t registered their hardware address â€” such as the other ethernet devices. So I suspect hacking something which registers additional hardware addresses using the same interface might work, though I havenâ€™t trie</p>
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		<title>By: sh</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do this at home, because my landlord only supplies internet over 802.11, which I dislike. At the moment I am using Linux for this purpose, however eventually I plan to try it with FreeBSD, since its wireless support is far less of a kick in the nuts than Linux&#039;s. Try it, you&#039;ll see!

Anyway, at first I tried just bridging the wireless and ethernet interfaces -- no luck. Apparently this has to do with the AP not wanting to talk to devices which haven&#039;t registered their hardware address -- such as the other ethernet devices. So I suspect hacking something which registers additional hardware addresses using the same interface might work, though I haven&#039;t tried it.

Two strategies remain. The simplest is to enable proxy-ARP, and add host-routes to all your ethernet hosts. This has a substantial advantage for LAN parties: now the wireless and ethernet hosts are all on the same broadcast domain!

The other strategy is to give your ethernet interface a separate subnet, and have the other hosts use that interface&#039;s address as their default route. You could run DHCP here. There is a major caveat: most APs are way too rigid to let you add a route to your box for that second subnet, nor will they do NAT for it. So you need to be running some decent software on the AP -- openwrt or whatever, or have a proper box acting as an AP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do this at home, because my landlord only supplies internet over 802.11, which I dislike. At the moment I am using Linux for this purpose, however eventually I plan to try it with FreeBSD, since its wireless support is far less of a kick in the nuts than Linux&#8217;s. Try it, you&#8217;ll see!</p>
<p>Anyway, at first I tried just bridging the wireless and ethernet interfaces &#8212; no luck. Apparently this has to do with the AP not wanting to talk to devices which haven&#8217;t registered their hardware address &#8212; such as the other ethernet devices. So I suspect hacking something which registers additional hardware addresses using the same interface might work, though I haven&#8217;t tried it.</p>
<p>Two strategies remain. The simplest is to enable proxy-ARP, and add host-routes to all your ethernet hosts. This has a substantial advantage for LAN parties: now the wireless and ethernet hosts are all on the same broadcast domain!</p>
<p>The other strategy is to give your ethernet interface a separate subnet, and have the other hosts use that interface&#8217;s address as their default route. You could run DHCP here. There is a major caveat: most APs are way too rigid to let you add a route to your box for that second subnet, nor will they do NAT for it. So you need to be running some decent software on the AP &#8212; openwrt or whatever, or have a proper box acting as an AP.</p>
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